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 Post subject: Re: Rear shocks for S/944 NLA. Options?
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:09 pm 
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And another thing. My GAZ were initially delivered with the wrong spec mounts, iirc they had 944 spec, not turbo? EMC predominately work on 944's v 924/968's. EMC Motorsport whom had ordered them to their spec springs and valving for my car had to either send them back or they had new mounts machined and sent in. Not sure which but it delayed the collection by a week or two.

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Nige wrote:
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I had a little fouling issue. They spun up an offset bottom bush

Those are words I never want to hear again :faint: :lol:


Yeah, reading it back it didn't read as I intended :sweat: :sweat:

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:37 pm 
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Whats different about S/early 944 mountings and later S2/turbo if anything?? All are using alloy trailing arms? Later cars have wider track but assume the shocks are mounted the same?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:39 pm 
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scm924s wrote:
Have you checked with Porscheshop and Design 911

Porscheshop do a Sachs OE replacement for the S and early 944 but don't state the eye diameter, Design 911 do what appears the be the Bilstein you have found elsewhere stating the eye is for 14 mm fittings. These people must have come across the issue before and advised a solution?

https://www.design911.co.uk/fu/prod3157 ... 24-020527/

https://www.porscheshop.co.uk/porsche-m ... 44-85.html


Both often list items that are not available from their suppliers, especially Porscheshop

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 8:58 pm 
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Whats different about S/early 944 mountings and later S2/turbo if anything?? All are using alloy trailing arms? Later cars have wider track but assume the shocks are mounted the same?

Being new to 924 ownership I had the same confusion when I bought my Bilsteins.
Early 944s had steel arms with the 12mm lower mount bush. The S has the alloy arms of the later 944s with the 14mm bush. I believe the damper lengths are the same so in principle you could fit the earlier dampers by doing away with the 14mm mounting bolts and having some custom (14mm reducing to 12mm) studs made up

However, if I was Mike I'd just fit the one's he's already bought

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I’m waiting for them to get back to me but, after talking to them, all they can provide are adjustables, which I don’t really want but, at this point, they seem the only option?

Adjustables are not EXACTLY what I want as I will potentially be paying 4 times the cost of a stock unit for something that is of no interest/use to me!

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I’m waiting for them to get back to me but, after talking to them, all they can provide are adjustables, which I don’t really want but, at this point, they seem the only option?

Adjustables are not EXACTLY what I want as I will potentially be paying 4 times the cost of a stock unit for something that is of no interest/use to me!


You just need to decide what you want the shocks to do Mike, if your happy with the spring rate and ride height then OEM will be cheapest but if you want something of a higher quality whether you go for Bilstein B6, Spax or Gaz coilovers they are all in the £650 price bracket fixed or adjustable, still cheap when compared to a K3 or Ohlins damper.

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What’s the price of a nla stock Sachs shock v the GAZ at £68?

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Well n/a rear shocks are around the £55 to £68 mark for sachs, for £13 more its a no brainer hence why I'm getting some gaz adjustables in the new year.

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Front Sachs inserts from Max are £50 if you have rebuildable front dampers then you still need to source springs, clearly this is a cheaper route at circa £220 for the inserts and telescopics plus £100 for front springs but for a modified 924 i'd rather have a set of shocks that adjustable and matched front and rear.

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