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 Post subject: Re: Rear shocks for S/944 NLA. Options?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:07 am 
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So the issues with the GAZ versus the pictures of existing is what exactly ? Sorry for my ignorance

As I understand it Mike is concerned that the bush housing is shorter than the bolt mounting sleeve


And the issue with this is......?

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:41 am 
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Seems to me 10 minutes with a hacksaw would solve it?

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scm924s wrote:
Seems to me 10 minutes with a hacksaw would solve it?


Not needed. The bolt sleeve needs to be that length for steel trailing arms. For the alloy arms its academic how long the sleeve is as the sleeve only butts up to the arm on one side. The other side is the bolt head. It can be shorter or longer. The bush housing and sleeve is more than man enough to do the job

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Still don't like the overlong sleeve which allows the s/a eye to float about, needs spacers either side if you don't shorten it

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scm924s wrote:
Still don't like the overlong sleeve which allows the s/a eye to float about, needs spacers either side if you don't shorten it


Won't float. On mine its a two piece sleeve inserted from each side with a narrower inner section and wider outer. Its not the same diameter throughout the sleeve if you get what I mean

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Not available down here Mike, sorry. I took the liberty and asked this chap who sells SACHS shocks and various other parts ( MAHLE, BOSCH etc) if these shocks you got would pose any issues versus the original SACHS ones and he said to me from what he sees in the pics and knows , there shouldn't be any issues provided the torques are correct which is important at the bottom of the shocks... hope that helps :beer:


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Carrera RSR wrote:
Can you show the problem in an image as I don't understand the issue to be honest.


Apologies for the naff drawings!!

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This is basically how the original item fits, completely flush with the face of the arm. It’s a good flush fit and reduces flexing.
Below is essentially the aftermarket ones. The contact face area is the radius and width of the collar which can only induce flex.

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Hopefully this explains my ramblings a little better?

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Don't see it introducing flex, the bolt still pulls up against the sleeve in both cases, be interested to see if the sleeve a continuous thing or split and shouldered as Steve suggests, don't like the plain sleeve.

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Does it look right?

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The only concern I have is if the s/a eye/bush is free to wander along the length of the sleeve, if the sleeve is split and shouldered to stop this, fine, if not then I would think of a spacer either side. Is the overall length of the original sleeve the same as the new?

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