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 Post subject: Brave new world...
PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:00 am 
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...is it coming?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46794948

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:29 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:07 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:13 pm 
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I'm aiming for it to line up nicely with the age I'm told I'm too old to drive a car myself.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:14 pm 
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I'm with Steve, as a great big yes, you can have my daily commute, with pleasure, while I read a book.
but I still want to be able to go rallying at the weekend, so there is a reservation to still allow conventional driving

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Would gladly use such a system most days for going to work and not only.
BUT, would like the freedom to keep my own cars and use them when i see fit.
This new thing should be offered as an optional, cost effective and stress free alternative, not a mandatory way enforced by law or leveraged by unreal emission regulations and huge costs of not following them.


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It already exists, it's called a train.

Self driving cars are not coming in our driving lives (maybe Erin's) as the legal issues will never be settled to allow both human and AI drivers on the same roads. You need to get rid of the former to allow the latter.

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rallyimp wrote:
richardb wrote:
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I'm with Steve, as a great big yes, you can have my daily commute, with pleasure, while I read a book.
but I still want to be able to go rallying at the weekend, so there is a reservation to still allow conventional driving


I dare say you'll not be able to have your cake and eat it. As one is implemented, you'll probably have to wave goodbye to the other.

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pete wrote:
It already exists, it's called a train.

Self driving cars are not coming in our driving lives (maybe Erin's) as the legal issues will never be settled to allow both human and AI drivers on the same roads. You need to get rid of the former to allow the latter.


:lol: yea but what about the ones who dont like tight schedules and sitting next to random other people?
Depends on how AI develops and how we vote i guess.

But arent there some places that already have these "auto pilot" thing implemented?
Ok cars will currently not drive with nobody inside because of..regulations yes...but thats just a decision away...since if they crash with you onboard they will crash without you inside as well...so in terms of number of accidents and damages makes no difference if we allow them to drive themselves if they can actually do it. I say AI will not crash more than humans do so its basically the same thing.
Its only one thing we have to sort out, who's to blame...who will pay in case of an accident caused by AI while nobody is inside the car. If you're inside the car and you let the AI drive it means you assume the responsibility of the AI by giving over the command...but if nobody is in the car and the AI crashes..then its difficult to say who is to blame.


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This all assumes everyones regular commute is just that, repetitive travel to the same place of work and back. As an example of the alternative, my son is a session guitarist as well as a degree teacher. The teaching aspect in a city centre location is replaceable by driverless transport for sure, the session work is anywhere and everywhere laden with gear at any hour of the day or night. How long before an AI network can support that career profile?

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