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 Post subject: Re: 924s garden find!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:28 pm 
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Yes that's a 7" ET 23.3mm rear wheel - you'll need ET 52.3mm instead, 6" standard (if you wish to fully comply with the Blue Book) or optional 7"


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I don't understand what you have written.

Yes its a 7'' wheel, why won't it comply?

6'' was standard or 7'' optional? Which is what is fitted......

Ah sorry Steve, I see what you mean. Historic Road Rally rules specify max wheel rim width of 6", so technically 7" won't comply. Cars with 7" standard fitment are accepted for obvious reasons, even though the Book doesn't actually accommodate that scenario. 7" rears were fitted to the later 924S Le Mans but they were post 85 so again aren't technically acceptable under Historic rules


Historic Rally rule makers need to update themselves to modern times ......... :sweat:

The MkII Escorts boys probably didn't help matters, but some folks want to drive other cars than 60's and 70's TR4's and MGB's

Yeah there has been a number of outdated rules in the Historic Road Rally regs. I've just checked the latest book and they have this year added an allowance for classes 2, 3 & 4 (1975 onwards) where wider that 6" rims and tyres of less than 65% aspect ratio are allowed if they were OEM fitment.
They have also allowed hydraulic handbrakes which has surprised me

Speed event regs are much simpler :nod:



Nige & Steve

The Historic Rules have been updated this year
R19.7.8. For Cars in Categories 2, 3 or 4, R19.7.2. and R19.7.5. do
not apply where OE specification wheels are wider and tyre
sections are less than those specified therein.

Although we will still have to make sure all options are listed as options on that specific car OE paperwork

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 Post subject: Re: 924s garden find!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:20 pm 
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rallyimp wrote:
Nige wrote:
Carrera RSR wrote:
Nige wrote:
Carrera RSR wrote:
Nige wrote:
Carrera RSR wrote:
Nige wrote:
Yes that's a 7" ET 23.3mm rear wheel - you'll need ET 52.3mm instead, 6" standard (if you wish to fully comply with the Blue Book) or optional 7"


??

????


I don't understand what you have written.

Yes its a 7'' wheel, why won't it comply?

6'' was standard or 7'' optional? Which is what is fitted......

Ah sorry Steve, I see what you mean. Historic Road Rally rules specify max wheel rim width of 6", so technically 7" won't comply. Cars with 7" standard fitment are accepted for obvious reasons, even though the Book doesn't actually accommodate that scenario. 7" rears were fitted to the later 924S Le Mans but they were post 85 so again aren't technically acceptable under Historic rules


Historic Rally rule makers need to update themselves to modern times ......... :sweat:

The MkII Escorts boys probably didn't help matters, but some folks want to drive other cars than 60's and 70's TR4's and MGB's

Yeah there has been a number of outdated rules in the Historic Road Rally regs. I've just checked the latest book and they have this year added an allowance for classes 2, 3 & 4 (1975 onwards) where wider that 6" rims and tyres of less than 65% aspect ratio are allowed if they were OEM fitment.
They have also allowed hydraulic handbrakes which has surprised me

Speed event regs are much simpler :nod:



Nige & Steve

The Historic Rules have been updated this year
R19.7.8. For Cars in Categories 2, 3 or 4, R19.7.2. and R19.7.5. do
not apply where OE specification wheels are wider and tyre
sections are less than those specified therein.

Although we will still have to make sure all options are listed as options on that specific car OE paperwork

That's in my last post Chris.
The problem with the S is 7" rims were not a factory option until towards the end of its life (even the 16" options were 6") - so they aren't technically allowed for a category 4 car. Some events with a later cut off date might be ok.
The ET23.3 would definitely be out because of the increased track they create

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 Post subject: Re: 924s garden find!
PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:32 pm 
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As it looks like I’ll be spending a bit more time at home I ordered the major service kit and fuel pump from Woolies today so I get get cracking when that arrives.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:32 pm 
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Well it was all going so well, fuel pump removed, bracket was intact so cleaned up and treated ready for new pump. Thought while I’m under there I’ll have general check and clean, the fuel tank strap was pretty rusty so I started to wire brush it and fuel started to leak out! Disappointing but hey ho I’ll remove the tank then I realised you need to remove the transmission!!

Enough for today.


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 Post subject: Re: 924s garden find!
PostPosted: Tue Mar 24, 2020 8:25 pm 
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Ouch! That's a time consuming discovery, but better it does that at home than on the road or stranded somewhere. Can you weld? Even if you can, you have to be very careful with a fuel tank. I think I read something about filling it with water should reduce the chance of a disaster!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:57 pm 
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I can weld but there’s no way I’m going to weld a fuel tank, I’ll see how bad it is once I’ve got it off but will try looking for a good used one.

The fuel tank meant I had a bit of a wobble about whether it’s viable or not so I got the trusty angle grinder out to see what lay beneath the sills. I started with the worst side, unfortunately the rot has gotten into the inner sill as well. There is corrosion around the jacking points but both are still solid particularly around the rear suspension mount.

I’ll clean everything up properly tomorrow but I think it’s salvageable.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:17 pm 
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Found a bit more rust, I’m getting good at this game!


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:13 pm 
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Blimey that's bad under there. Always shocking what a car can hide that looks superficially good from the outside. That'll keep you busy!

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That lower front was the worst but thankfully the A pillar was all good when I ground it back. All the rust is cut out now, metal treated so I’ll start fabricating the repair pieces tomorrow.


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