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 Post subject: Crank Sensor for S2 Turbo
PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:48 pm 
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I can hear the intake of breath through teeth even as I ask this!.

Ladies and Gentlemen; We have been, and continue to help Porsche Cars GB with the 924 Turbo 70th anniversary Special Edition
and we now need a crank sensor 931 606 021 00 ASAP. Is there a proven good one out there that anyone is willing to part with?

Of course there is the Mittelmotor Distributor option, which is justifiable as this car is not a part number resto, it has been mildly themed to fit the70th livery of Liquid metal bronze metallic paint with black interior.This will be the fall back but a crank sensor is the preferred option.

We need to make a call urgently so responses please here , PM or to marketing@porsche924.co.uk

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:01 pm 
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Whilst recognising the benefit of helping Porsche GB, surely the best way to get Porsche to chase up the the remanufacturing of these things, which is desperately needed, is to stress that these are NLA anywhere, and get Porsche GB backing?

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Whilst recognising the benefit of helping Porsche GB, surely the best way to get Porsche to chase up the the remanufacturing of these things, which is desperately needed, is to stress that these are NLA anywhere, and get Porsche GB backing?


It's already on the Porsche Classic wish list, has been for a long time. I'm not sure how much clout GB Cars has with AG, they certainly had to do a lot of legwork themselves to restore the GTP even though ultimately it will be going back to Stuttgart to the Museum!!

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One of the few series 2 and CGT parts which are unique and unicorn status making these cars a large and expensive paperweight without it and no know alternative. Perfect time for 924OC to lobby PCGB to push hard on its parent to pull their finger out and remanufacture or give full specs so someone else can look into to so

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I would just swap the dizzy, any crank sensor is well over 30 years old and will fail.

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Carrera RSR wrote:
One of the few series 2 and CGT parts which are unique and unicorn status making these cars a large and expensive paperweight without it and no know alternative. Perfect time for 924OC to lobby PCGB to push hard on its parent to pull their finger out and remanufacture or give full specs so someone else can look into to so


You may be right but first PCGB would need to generate some real enthusiasm for the 924. Also as a club they look to Porsche Cars GB for funding and support rather than AG.
I will speak to our contacts for a steer on who best to lobby

EDIT: Ok, I've set hares running, I'll report back on progress.

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Carrera RSR wrote:
One of the few series 2 and CGT parts which are unique and unicorn status making these cars a large and expensive paperweight without it and no know alternative. Perfect time for 924OC to lobby PCGB to push hard on its parent to pull their finger out and remanufacture or give full specs so someone else can look into to so


You may be right but first PCGB would need to generate some real enthusiasm for the 924. Also as a club they look to Porsche Cars GB for funding and support rather than AG.
I will speak to our contacts for a steer on who best to lobby

EDIT: Ok, I've set hares running, I'll report back on progress.


I'm talking about Porsche Cars GB and not Porsche Club GB to lobby Porsche AG. Its the same company at the end of the day.....PAG own Porsche Cars GB. Porsche Dealers have all been tasked to rebuild classics. Several turbos and CGT's. All have come to the 924OC at times of need when Porsche AG parts holding has failed them. I would assume other Countries have been tasked with similar projects in recent years? I would assume all have failed to find critical parts during the rebuild process.

If PAG are not going to remake the sensor, then they should release the full specs of the sensor so someone like Thomas/Werk924 could reproduce the sensor. May not be cheap to make in short runs, but neither are the alternatives. One thing is for sure. They will only get more rare as more fail. The current ones will only last for a finite time.

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Wouldn't do any harm to get PCGB and TIPEC on board, everyone has a shared interest in keeping cars on the road, more shout more clout!

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There is a guy testing or planning to test my idea of replacement sensor.
There is a topic on .org about it.
If this other sensor works and can be fitted with a spacer...

http://924board.org/viewtopic.php?t=439 ... c&start=15


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morghen wrote:
There is a guy testing or planning to test my idea of replacement sensor.
There is a topic on .org about it.
If this other sensor works and can be fitted with a spacer...


Thanks Ciprian, sounds encouraging. For this project given the urgency it will probably have to be second hand original ( risky) or mittelmotor . Let us know when you have some feedback please.

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